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Lou Dobbs Tonight FOX Business Oct 11, 2012 7:00pm EDT . and the president and the vice president and paul ryan and a lot of the other guys. but this isn't a fight. listen, when you go to the next debate, you say something, someone says something, you say something back the other way. it's a fight. this is a discussion. and they are not really listening. they're not really taking a look at each other. i think they're just going to go with their own instincts and their own experience. and i'll be very curious to see how that works out. >> well, we have been watching this for a number of years and i don't think it's a discussion. i think that there's a big difference between the two men on the stage. john harwood, good to have you with us. >> good to be here. >> we appreciate your time. and we'll be watching the debate in a few hours from now. >>> up next, a look at the massive and growing government debt. it is hitting record highs that have not been seen in more than 60 years. it's a staggering numbers and it's going to have a profound impact on your life. that's next. [ male announcer ] when we get there, you

Morning Joe MSNBC Oct 11, 2012 3:00am PDT -point lead in a quinnipiac poll. it's important to note that in this poll, we see the third-party candidates getting 9%. in the last two weeks, that number has been 13%. now, if that number gets above 15%, you're going to have a serious debate about the invitations. john harwood, i have to say, the last two weeks, we've had the debate commission say, oh, well, what do you expect, the debates are going to get more interesting. and then we got colin powell and mitt romney on the same stage. you've got to think that in the end, they're going to have to put somebody on the stage representing the united states of america. >> i think they're going to have to have him on the stage. if you're talking about 15%, if you're talking about 5%, you're talking about a lot of ballots. it wasn't an accident, i think, that they put the third-party candidates on the stage the way they did. if you look at it, it was a way of, i think, getting them into the conversation and the fact that they were there. it's a part of the process right now. i don't think they're going to go away. in fact, the 15% or the 1

Early Start CNN Oct 11, 2012 2:00am PDT and the first presidential debate. cnn's john king weighs in. >> i think, looking at the polls, you can say that the debate was a draw. what that means is that the president is in a position, a tight position, a difficult position, but one that he can still get out of by winning the next two debates. >> let's start with the state of the race, the president in a dead heat with mitt romney. most of the polls, including this one, show a very close race nationally, as well as key swing states. this is what it looks like. here's florida, ohio. and in most polls, the race is within the margin of error. that means if the election were held today, the president would have a slight edge. but we're talking about a few points here. a couple of points. let me put them up on the screen. a couple of points -- ohio, the president up one point. north carolina, governor romney, one point. virginia, a three-point lead. this is an important state for romney. and that's just for starters. let's go to the super pacs. we've been talking about them and been talking about them and not talking about them. the president has a huge lead

Morning Joe MSNBC Oct 11, 2012 3:00am PDT white house is saying, we're not going to change the format, we're going to keep it the way it is.

john harwood, i look at the polls nationally, the race is tied.

the president is up a couple of points in ohio.

the race is tight, you've been covering politics for a long time.

is this a situation where it would benefit mitt romney to have a more spirited debate?

>> i think so.

mitt romney needs to make sure he doesn't step on his good news.

the good news is really two-fold.

first thing is, he looks like a guy who could be the president of the united states.

he looks presidential.

he looks comfortable.

and he's talking about the issues that people care about.

the other piece of good news for mitt romney is that the president is just about maxed out on the minority vote.

he's at 70% among blacks, 95% among hispanics.

he's at 41% among whites.

if mitt romney can get some white guys to vote for him in florida and ohio, he could win those states and that would be a game changer.

>> i want to play a piece of sound.

there are a couple of things i want to play.

>> i agree with you.

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CNN Newsroom CNN Oct 11, 2012 12:00pm PDT that when he has a chance to speak for himself and describe his plan, he should do that. he was very effective a couple of weeks ago in that first debate. here's the thing, i think we have to look at what's behind the president

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